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Communicating to MPs

On this page we set out an example of how to prepare for a meeting with your MP, and the an example of a letter to an MP.

These are just examples, just one way to approach communicating with your MP. You may have your own way of doing this but, if you do not and want some guidance, then why not simply use these examples for yourr meeting or letter - or those parts that reflect your personal views about this issue?

The documents can be downloaded if you want to copy them or get busy with some serious 'cut n pasting'!

NB: These documents provide an excellent and comprehensive starting point from which to understand and summarise the PJM case.

Meeting with an MP

If you telephone your MP's constituency office you will be given a 15 minute slot to meet up with your MP - that is probably all the time you have.

Our problem with the PJM issue is that it is massive. It is impossible to cover all the points in 15 minutes, but it is possible to 'be forearmed', summarise the key issues, provide some background data to show you have done your research, and then during your meeting cherry-pick the items that are most appealing to your MP.

Here are the notes that were used by Barry Fleming to brief one MP (not his own, as it happens). They consist of 11 pages of Summary together with a number of supporting documents.

The plan was to prepare much more than was needed but to present only those points that were meaningful at the time. The notes and supporting documents were left with the MP. They covered:

If you have 15 minutes to spare, why not visit your MP and take copies of these papers with you?

  1. The Summary that was handed across to the MP at the start of the Meeting

  2. The Fight4thePJM Rebuttal

  3. The Petition to the Queen (not enclosed here)

  4. Letter from Mark Harper, Shadow Veterans Minister, addressed to the wrong 'Fleming'!

  5. Ministerial Statement, 31st January 2006

  6. Letter from Ian McCartney re: 1850 5 Year Rule

  7. Copy Email from Don Touhig MP re: Making the case for the PJM to the HD Committee

  8. Hansard Extract: Don Touhig MP asking Veterans Minister to write to the HD Committee

  9. Letter from Don Touhig MP re: the new Veterans Minister’s support and EDM

  10. Scottish Petition Summary , Page 1, Page 2.

  11. Portsmouth Today - “Bureaucrats are the obstacle to justice for veterans”

  12. Portsmouth Today - “Seven Myths of the men from the Ministry

  13. Cabinet Office Letter re: Royal Prerogative and no right of appeal

  14. Jack Straw’ Foreign Decorations ‘rules’

  15. 1969 Foreign Decorations Regulations, Part A page 1 Part A page 2, Part A page 3,
    and Part B page 1, Part B page 2.

  16. Commons Library Standard Note SN/IA/3914 re: PJM, p1, p2, p3, p4, p5, p6, p7.

A Letter to an MP

This is just one example of a letter written to an MP. It was the one that was used to present the updated We Ask 50 Questions submission.

In these letters we endeavour to point our MPs at the more significant issues knowing that they will have a very short attention span unless we say something meaningful that they can use.

This letter will probably test even this MP's focus, but he is interested in our cause and, being an ex-serviceman, he will understand the finer points about our view of the way we and the PJM are being treated.

The best advice is keep it short and keep it accurate. This is not a good example of the former, but it is of the latter.

Richard Benyon MP
Houses of Parliament

28th March 2006

Dear Richard,

Pingat Jasa Malaysia (PJM)

Thank you for your continuing support and for asking for my further submission regarding our fight for the right to wear the PJM which you I hope you will judge appropriate to present to the Minister. It is enclosed herewith.

You have asked for a succinct paper, but our case consists of many parts reflecting the unnecessarily complicated way the PJM has been dealt with by the Government and by the HD Committee. The sheer weight of our submission, based upon just two official documents (more to follow!), reflects the sheer weight of our just case. That case is very simple:

It is our view that the HD Committee made a recommendation based upon an incorrect briefing of the double-medalling situation and, encouraged by the support they thought they had from that objection, proceeded with an inappropriate and inflexible application of the 5-year rule to a 2004 Commonwealth service medal that was not made uniquely to the UK and had been accepted by the other Commonwealth countries by the time the HD Committee sat to consider their recommendation.

I would like to emphasise just four points:

We also take great exception to the Cabinet Office letter I received (attached to the submission) that states that the wearing of the PJM “would compromise previous awards and the integrity of the system.” We do not think the Russian medals in respect of ‘Patriotic’ wars and medals in respect of other anniversaries would be prejudiced by a medal that represents a vigorous and successful campaign against terrorism. Our Victoria Cross holders and other supporters do not think so either.

Confusion abounds in the HD Committee and in Government who were poorly briefed. Frankly, I do not think the decision makers gave the PJM the time it deserved for proper consideration and that is why I believe there is an opportunity now for appropriate words to be found to enable the PJM to be worn - particularly for ageing civilian veterans. Any other result will be shameful, mean-minded, and inappropriate.

I very much hope that you will be able to consider our submission and extract from it the points to put to the Minister. In the meantime, I hope you will visit our web site at where all these points are addressed.

With kind regards,

Yours sincerely,


Barry Fleming

Cc: Your Newbury Constituency Office

Enc: Submission dated 26 th March 2006 with supporting documents

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