I heartily agree with what has been done. We should all be intelligent and old enough to leave out anything not actually connected with our fight to have permission for the PJM to be worn.

AMEN

mcdangle wrote:

I heartily agree with what has been done. We should all be intelligent and old enough

Well, I'm certainly old enough.


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Merdeka, Merdeka, Merdeka,
from the HD Committee and its decision.

Just placed my vote (Oh I do hate that politically bias rag of a so called newspaper !) No prizes being offered as to what I voted !

Sorry Stan, 94% is all I can manage with the power of prayer!

John

StanW wrote:

Now don't forget to vote here folks! I should hate for anyone to misinterpret "NO"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/pollsanddebates/pollsanddebates.html?in_page_id=2006

Dunnit.

In my opinion Gordon "I'll look into it" Brown has also let down ex-servicemen and women - thus this post is on Topic with the PJM!


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BarryF, who fought for the Right to Wear the Pingat Jasa Malaysia

HIYA, WATHA (Ro5)!

GOOGLED IT AND IT'S LUVERLY. DON'T OWN A KILT BUT I'D LUV AN O.T.C WITH THOSE SEXY CURVES FORE AN' AFT. LIKE THE HLI ONE COULD CHARGE EQUALLY WELL IN BOTH DIRECTIONS, (EXPLANATION TO THAT SUPPLIED IF NEEDED) AND THE DESCRIPTION PER, CATALOGUE...."FLATTER BOTTOM AND A LITTLE WIDER".....SUMS ME UP TO A TEE. TAILOR MADE YOU MIGHT SAY. LIKE GRUMPY GORDON...."I'LL LOOK INTO IT"....BUT I MEAN IT.

MIKE.


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Mike Barton

[quote="Arthur R-S"]Hello Pete, Where ave you been. I've sent out the Naval Patrol to look for you, but they only got as far as the pub... nothing new there then.

As you have been AWOL. I'll have your station card and put you on Jimmy's report, and I'll bet that we have both been there a few times... right?

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Yours in two minds

Arthur[/quote]
NAVAL PATROL! CAN REMEMBER TURNING UP AS LEADING HAND OF PATROL,FOR WANCHAI,ON GOING TO THE REG OFFICE At HMS TAMAR,THE REGULATING P.O. (A FORMER CREWMEMBER OF THE' RUSTY B' 7 YRS PREVIOUS),WITH OUT BATTIN AN EYELID,SAYS 'LATHAM MAKES A CHANGE TO HAVE YOU ON OUR SIDE!) YOU CAN KEEP THE STATION CARD,I HAVE 5,, Ist AND 2nd PORT AN STBD+ A BLUE ONE FOR SPECIAL DUTIES,AS FOR THE JIMMY AT ONE TIME I WAS HIS PERSONEL DECORATOR,NOT MUCH ROOM FOR INDIVIDUAL EXPRESSION,JUST GREY,AND ACRES OF SHIPS SIDE.I'VE ALWAYS BEEN IN TWO MINDS MYSELF OVER SHICZOPHRENIA,SO UNDERSTAND YOUR DILEMA.A BIG HELLO TO MY OPPO MIKE,YES ITS COLD AROUND THE THWARTS,BUT AT LEAST I DINNAE HAV TO WEAR A KILT,I'VE ALSO NAMED MY CANOE( GOOGLE 'OLD TOWN CAMPER') TO CHECK IT OUT,I'VE CALLED IT PETE'S JOLLY MACHINE,OR PJM FOR SHORT,TO GET ROUND CENSORSHIP

Hello Pete, Where ave you been. I've sent out the Naval Patrol to look for you, but they only got as far as the pub... nothing new there then.

As you have been AWOL. I'll have your station card and put you on Jimmy's report, and I'll bet that we have both been there a few times... right?

Mike, You have pre-empted my favourite sayings about MoD and their advice on nuclear devices, still, someone had to say it, and it might as well be you.

Stan W. Well really, I would if I had half a mind to.

Yours in two minds

Arthur

Quote:" Defence ministers have told me that should more resources be required, I need only to ask".....What more can government do !!!!!

It is suggested that procurement is not tied up with funding - If this year's budget has run out, then what, ask for a truce 'till April when procurement can again begin (together with all the other needs, of course)?

Commanders in the field are not refused what they require - it just wont be supplied; reminiscent of -"The Queen has not refused permission to wear, she has not granted permission to wear" - remember, that came from MoD as well!

Redcapfred
I notice that the Surg Gen, Lt Gen Lillywhite, (late RAMC thank God) has been very quiet over the past few weeks.
Having met and known the man from old (as a Maj) makes me think that the 'waters' at MoD are not as calm as we are led to believe.

Phredd

ps :- have a look at one of his own men has to say >>>>
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/07/01/nmedic101.xml

Quote:"all replies to the media, TV, etc, by MoD Spokespersons "...And many of these spokespersons are not elected MP's and are of ALL political convictions (Labour, Conservative, Lib Dem, etc), they, like the HD Committee, are Civil Servants entrusted with a job. Commanders on the ground have NOT been refused anything they have asked for on the grounds of funding, if they do not get what they want it is more often a case of precurement ! And the Surgeon General is on record as having stated that our Troops get 'First Class' medical treatment ! Housing?, yes there are some sub-standard married quarters, but as I recall from my dats it was the same then !

Quote: "What they are saying is that statements are only reliable after they have been edited ... inferring 'edited' by them! "

Then why are there those who are happy to believe newspaper reports AFTER they have been edited by them to tell it the way THEY want it to sound, missing out that VITAL quote from Gen Dannatt ("The military covenant is not broken, but more needs to be done.") because it countered the image they wish to portray?

Whingers my backside, Redcapfred.

The MOD and other civil service 'services' are running completely out of control and this government is suffering because of them. I personally have no respect for politicians but I must admit to a suspicion that the Mandarins in the civil service are deliberately making a mess of everything to bring the present incumbents into disrespect. Surely they cannot be so stupid and incompetent as the present circumstances suggest.
The MOD is progressing from one lie to another and it is quite obvious that they have lost the place and have lost the battle to prove others are responsible for the shocking mess our armed forces are in. Gordon 'I'll look into it' Brown should be looking into what he can do to replace the incompetents in the civil service and replace them with intelligent beings. Just an idea Gordon, but why not start at the very top and sack whoever is in charge of the Civil Service. This would bring you a lot of congratulations.