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	| BarryF 
 
 
			Joined: 11 Feb 2006Posts: 2721
 Location: Berkshire, United Kingdom
 
   |   Messages from Malaysia 
			We have set up a new  web page where we'll publish messages from Malaysia - with permission from the sender in each case, of course.
 
You can see them at http://www.fight4thepjm.org/the_pjm_Malaysian_comments.htm 
Here is just one example:
 
Name=Maulvi Bakar
 
Subject=Let them wear their PJMs with pride
 
Message=Dear sir
 
I know this comment will go to the fight4thepjm.org but the message below was more intended to the powers that be.
 
Many governments are guilty of forgeting those that have served them in the past. Be it civil servants or those in uniform, especially those who gave the ultimate sacrifice.
 
Sometimes governments suddenly chose to remember these ordinary people who did extra-ordinary things during perilous times. The government of Malaysia have decided to award these ordinary men and women a token medal of remembrance, the PJM, for their extra-ordinary services during those perilous times of national emergency.
 
To these brave men and women, I sincerely believe that this token of remembrance are of value and significance more than the medal's weight, size or material. It is a symbol of their extra-ordinary service given to them by a grateful nation - I am very much grateful myself.
 
Two score years have gone by since those perilous time, the world has changed. The political climate has changed too. The past does not change, it may be hidden or concealed but the truth will prevail and be set free. The truth of these brave men and women have been revealed and their medals are their proof. Whatever differences between the two nations have today, let not these brave men and women suffer and be victimized. The have suffered, bled and died during those perilous times, let them be remembered today while the survivors are still with us.
 
Sincere regards and thanks!
 
Maulvi Bakar
 
Kajang
 
MALAYSIA
			 _________________ BarryF, who fought for the Right to Wear the Pingat Jasa Malaysia
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	| Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:49 am |       | 
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	| BarryF 
 
 
			Joined: 11 Feb 2006Posts: 2721
 Location: Berkshire, United Kingdom
 
   |   Re: Messages from Malaysia 
			BarryF wrote:We have set up a new  web page where we'll publish messages from Malaysia - with permission from the sender in each case, of course.
 You can see them at http://www.fight4thepjm.org/the_pjm_Malaysian_comments.htm
 
And another:
 
Name=Amli Abdullah
 
Subject=PJM
 
Message=I wasn't born yet when you guys serve in Malaysia during that confrontation period, but I would tell you this, our parents and grandparents are owe a great gratitude to all that shed their blood and sweat just to ensure their security, safety and creating path to walk from the dark hours of our life. For those who know the history of the aggression will share my thought and support with our heart the right for you to wear the honour.
 
Amli Abdullah
			 _________________ BarryF, who fought for the Right to Wear the Pingat Jasa Malaysia
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	| BarryF 
 
 
			Joined: 11 Feb 2006Posts: 2721
 Location: Berkshire, United Kingdom
 
   |   Re: Messages from Malaysia 
			BarryF wrote:We have set up a new  web page where we'll publish messages from Malaysia - with permission from the sender in each case, of course.
 You can see them at http://www.fight4thepjm.org/the_pjm_Malaysian_comments.htm
 
And another:
 
Name=James Kesamugarajah
 
Subject=Kipling's "Tommy"
 
Message=The British Government shoukld acknowlege and permit these forgotten warriors to wear the PJM, my grandad served with the British Forces in Malaya from WW2 thru the communist insurgency. He retired in Malaysia in the 1960's. Some of you may remember him in RAUB Pahang, Major Ernest F Lodge
 
James Kesamugarajah
			 _________________ BarryF, who fought for the Right to Wear the Pingat Jasa Malaysia
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	| BarryF 
 
 
			Joined: 11 Feb 2006Posts: 2721
 Location: Berkshire, United Kingdom
 
   |   Re: Messages from Malaysia 
			BarryF wrote:We have set up a new  web page where we'll publish messages from Malaysia - with permission from the sender in each case, of course.
 You can see them at http://www.fight4thepjm.org/the_pjm_Malaysian_comments.htm
 
And another:
 
Name=Lt Syahrin
 
Subject=Thank you 
 
Message=Hi There 
 
I read about your cause in the STAR's article (Aug 19th) and as a Malaysian - i can't thank you enough on the heroic deeds that the Commonwealth soldiers have played during the Emergency. Being a soldier as well (in the Territorial Army) I know the history well and the fact that the British Govt denies the right for all of you to wear the PJM is liked a mockery of the things that you have done in Malaysia. I fully support your cause and hope every single one of the Veterans could wear the PJM proudly beside other medals.
 
Thanks
 
Lt Syahrin (502 TA Reg) KL
			 _________________ BarryF, who fought for the Right to Wear the Pingat Jasa Malaysia
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	| BarryF 
 
 
			Joined: 11 Feb 2006Posts: 2721
 Location: Berkshire, United Kingdom
 
   |   Re: Messages from Malaysia 
			BarryF wrote:We have set up a new  web page where we'll publish messages from Malaysia - with permission from the sender in each case, of course.
 You can see them at http://www.fight4thepjm.org/the_pjm_Malaysian_comments.htm
 
And another:
 
Name=CWK
 
Subject=A message of support
 
Message=As an ordinary Malaysian I wish to add my support to your cause. To me it is a matter of great importance that the sacrifice of British servicemen, policemen & civilians who fought & served in Malaya be remembered. Indeed the award of a medal is but a small token of a debt that can never be repaid. That you should not be "allowed" to wear it seem incomprehensible.
 
With best wishes
 
David Chong
 
Malaysia
			 _________________ BarryF, who fought for the Right to Wear the Pingat Jasa Malaysia
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	| BarryF 
 
 
			Joined: 11 Feb 2006Posts: 2721
 Location: Berkshire, United Kingdom
 
   |   Re: Messages from Malaysia 
			BarryF wrote:We have set up a new  web page where we'll publish messages from Malaysia - with permission from the sender in each case, of course.
 You can see them at http://www.fight4thepjm.org/the_pjm_Malaysian_comments.htm
 
And another:
 
Name=Foo Hong Tat
 
Subject=The Pingat Jasa Malaysia
 
Message=I have no problem of getting to your web-site.
 
Re the wearing of the PJM is a very good idea. As an Inspector of Police in Malaysian Police Field Force as a platoon commander, I served in the 2n Division, Sarawak stationed at Pantu in 1964 and Major Lawe and Lt. Bullock were in the Gurkha Rifles Company in charge of the operations in that area. I retired as an Assistant Superintendent of Police in 1992. I understand one of them retired as a Brigadier General. Glad, if I can get their email addresses. We were fighting a real war and a British Major General was in charge of the Borneo Theatre. Without the British at time, the Indonesians would have walked into Malaysia. I am a living witness of the British armed forces fighting a war in the Borneo Theatre. 
 
Foo Hong Tat
 
Malaysia
			 _________________ BarryF, who fought for the Right to Wear the Pingat Jasa Malaysia
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	| BarryF 
 
 
			Joined: 11 Feb 2006Posts: 2721
 Location: Berkshire, United Kingdom
 
   |   Re: Messages from Malaysia 
			BarryF wrote:We have set up a new  web page where we'll publish messages from Malaysia - with permission from the sender in each case, of course.
 You can see them at http://www.fight4thepjm.org/the_pjm_Malaysian_comments.htm
 
And another:
 
Name=Adrian Villanueva
 
Subject=The Medal
 
Agree=Yes
 
Message=I hope that with your great efforts, the British Veterans will be given the permission to wear the PJM. I recently received my GSM-Borneo Confrontation Medal (after 42 Years) for service as a RMN Volunteer Reserve (Mobilised) Officer under the operational command of the 42 RM Cdo (Tawau Assault Group). I will wear this medal with great pride, & wish all PJM'ers could the same. 
 
Adrian Villanueva
 
Singapore
			 _________________ BarryF, who fought for the Right to Wear the Pingat Jasa Malaysia
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	| BarryF 
 
 
			Joined: 11 Feb 2006Posts: 2721
 Location: Berkshire, United Kingdom
 
   |   Re: Messages from Malaysia 
			BarryF wrote:We have set up a new  web page where we'll publish messages from Malaysia - with permission from the sender in each case, of course.
 You can see them at http://www.fight4thepjm.org/the_pjm_Malaysian_comments.htm
 
And another:
 
Name=James Pakianathan
 
Subject=About PJMers
 
Message=I find it hard to believe that British veterans are not allowed to wear the PJM. I am a Malaysian currently residing and working in London. If not for the sacrifice of so many soldiers in helping malaysia during the war and emergency, it would be hard to imagine were Malaysia would be now as an independent nation. The British goverment should allow these veterans to wear these medals to honor the sacrifices made by these soldiers and to honor all those that lost their lives during that period. Also to all veterans reading this comment, thank you for your scarifice in helping both my parents and myself live in a peaceful stable malaysia with no communism or war hanging over our country now.
 
James Pakianathan
 
A grateful Malaysian
			 _________________ BarryF, who fought for the Right to Wear the Pingat Jasa Malaysia
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	| BarryF 
 
 
			Joined: 11 Feb 2006Posts: 2721
 Location: Berkshire, United Kingdom
 
   |   Re: Messages from Malaysia 
			BarryF wrote:We have set up a new  web page where we'll publish messages from Malaysia - with permission from the sender in each case, of course.
 You can see them at http://www.fight4thepjm.org/the_pjm_Malaysian_comments.htm
 
And another:
 
Name=Laurence Lee
 
Subject=Thank you sirs
 
Message=Dear sirs, Let me congratulate all the brave veterans for being conferred the PJM, for they have done such an amazing services to my country, defending us from the dark times. When I read about how the British Government's reaction in disallowing the wearing of the PJM, it just make my blood boils. No deeds should ever be forgotten. Not this one. All of you have done a wonderful job in ensuring that we have our future. This future. We owed alot to you guys. I'm glad for each of everyone of you.
 
I hope and pray that your cause will eventually be fruitful. My best regards to all the vets.
 
Yours sincerely,
 
Laurence Lee,
 
The Young Malaysian
			 _________________ BarryF, who fought for the Right to Wear the Pingat Jasa Malaysia
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	| Smudger 
 
 
			Joined: 16 May 2006Posts: 137
 Location: Stockport
 
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			Having read those letters it makes me even more proud to have 'done my bit'and I will wear my medal with the greatest of dignity.
 
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 Hold the line steady boys.
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	| BarryF 
 
 
			Joined: 11 Feb 2006Posts: 2721
 Location: Berkshire, United Kingdom
 
   |   Re: Messages from Malaysia 
			BarryF wrote:We have set up a new  web page where we'll publish messages from Malaysia - with permission from the sender in each case, of course.
 You can see them at http://www.fight4thepjm.org/the_pjm_Malaysian_comments.htm
 
And another:
 
Name=Kow Chai LIEW
 
Subject=We did it together
 
Message=Between 1962 to 67 I served in squadrons 209 and 45. I think I am entitled to the PJM too of which like others being forgottened. 
 
If it is not for us Malaysia would have been ruled by Indonesia, today. 
 
Kow Chai LIEW
			 _________________ BarryF, who fought for the Right to Wear the Pingat Jasa Malaysia
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	| BarryF 
 
 
			Joined: 11 Feb 2006Posts: 2721
 Location: Berkshire, United Kingdom
 
   |   Re: Messages from Malaysia 
			BarryF wrote:We have set up a new  web page where we'll publish messages from Malaysia
 
I receive messages from all over the world - literally several hundred each week.
 
Those from Malaysia are particualrly poignant.
 
I find them humbling - and reminiscent of the gracious and generous people that I knew in Malaysia.  I learned much from them, including their language.  
 
If only the British government and civil servants could learn something from them too ... e.g. some humility, and an understanding of the importance of the PJM to the Malaysian people?
 
Barry
			 _________________ BarryF, who fought for the Right to Wear the Pingat Jasa Malaysia
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	| scouserkev 
 
 
			Joined: 25 Feb 2006Posts: 41
 Location: guess!
 
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			Smudger wrote:Having read those letters it makes me even more proud to have 'done my bit'and I will wear my medal with the greatest of dignity.
 
Me, too, Smudger.
 
Those messages put the Honours and Decorations Committee Recommendation into context ... it comes from a bunch of sad dinosaurs who allow themselves to be led by the nose by a couple of even sadder civil servants.  Honour?  They do not know the meaning of the word.  The people who wrote those messages understand.  And so do we.
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	| Paul Alders 
 
 
			Joined: 04 Mar 2006Posts: 931
 
 
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			SEND THOSE LETTERS TO THE FCO and then ask them WHY!
 
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	| 'Jock' Fenton 
 
 
			Joined: 12 Feb 2006Posts: 1222
 Location: Ontario, Canada
 
   |   Re: Messages from Malaysia 
			...I too, am humbled by these expressions of gratitude from 'ordinary citizens' of Malaysia...regardless of what implied insult is given by the petty-minded actions of the British Government...those of us who are fortunate enough to receive the PJM will always regard it as a distinct honour to be proudly worn.
 To all who have written to us I offer a grateful, 'Terima Kasih'....
 
 Malaysia Boleh!!!
 
 
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 ...................'Jock'
 Paroi...Rasah...Batu Signals Troop.
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