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Remembrance Sunday 2006
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Post Remembrance Sunday 2006 
Well guys I guess you will all be doing your own thing on Remembrance Sunday November 12th

I personally will be at The Imperial War Museum Duxford with a bunch of guys that I have known from way back in those days in The Far and some newer names to me but we will all remember our chums that never made it back at 1100hrs

Lest we forget...............

For Smudger if you are reading this, here is one of your Christmas Airways kites you were talking about, once they had loud speakers flying low over the jungle giving the CTs an earful!





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John, I have decided not to lead the RBL Parade in my town this year as chairman but will take part as a councillor instead which means having to wear medals in my civic robes thereby placing them in the forefront of local government so to speak. And, horror of horrors, will be at the saluting dias when the parade marches past after the service etc. I am the only councillor with medals so they will be a talking point.

John

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Wear them with pride John!

As an ex 2189 (Calne) ATC Squadron Brat I hope those youngsters continue the traditions I helped set over 50 years ago!

Lest we forget.............


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Well I never! My Standard Bearer is the Warrant Officer from that Squadron. I was an ATC Cadet when I was a brat in East Ham in London but I left in 1962 to join the Army at 15.

John

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They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old;
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.





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Post ARMISTICE DAY & REMEMBRANCE SUNDAY 
AS NOT A MEMBER OF ANYTHING,BUT DETERMINED IN MY OWN SMALL WAY,TO PAY MY RESPECTS TO THOSE WHO SERVED,SUFFERED,AND SACRIFICED,THEIR ALL.I DO AT THE REQUEST OF OUR LOCAL ROYAL BRITISH LEGION (KEYNSHAM) ATTEND THE SERVICE AT 11:00HRS IN FRONT OF THE MEMORIAL GATES IN KEYNSHAM ON SAT 11/11/06,ALONG WITH STANDARD BEARERS ,THIS YEAR,I WILL GOING IN A BRAND NEW SAILOR SUIT,BADGED UP TO MY OLD RANK,I AIN'T GOT MY PJM;YET, BUT IF I HAD I WOULD WEAR IT,THE REASON THEY ASK ME TO GO,IS WELL I'M THEIR BUGLER,OF SOME ABILITY(SO I'VE BEEN TOLD),MY REASON FOR WEARING 'RIG',THIS YEAR IS I'VE DONE THIS QUITE A FEW TIMES BUT ONLY IN BLAZER AND SLACKS,BUT I THINK THAT TO HAVE A EX SERVICEMAN UNIFORMED BOD,FOR ME ,SAYS WE ARE NOTHING SPECIAL,NOT SUPERMEN OR WOMEN,WE ARE JUST LIKE YOU ,HUSBANDS,DADS, BROTHERS,AND UNCLES WHO HAVE SERVED OUR COUNTRY,AND SO EVERYONE WHO HAS DIED OR SUFFERED IN CONFLICT,HAD SOMEONE WHO ,MOURNED THEM,AS TRUE AS IT WAS IN THE PAST,AS IT IS TODAY.ON REMEMBRANCE SUNDAY ITSELF, I DO THE SAME AT MY LOCAL CHURCH, ST MARY'S SALTFORD, FOR THE LOCAL YOUTH ORGANIZATIONS,SCOUTS,GUIDES,ETC, I USE TO SOUND OFF FROM A MEZZANINE FLOOR ABOVE AND BEHIND THE CONGREGATION,BUT AS THEY COULDN'T SEE ME, THEY ALL JUMPED OUT OF THEIR SKINS WHEN I BROKE THE SILENCE WITH 'THE ROUSE' OR 'REVEILLE', I'M GLAD TO REPORT, THAT THE CHURCH IS FULL TO OVERFLOWING FOR THIS SERVICE,AFTER THIS SERVICE WE DO THE SAME AT THE VILLAGE WAR MEMORIAL WREATH LAYING.I'FEEL PRIVILEDGED TO DO THIS,I CAN'T STAND THE M.O.D.,SOUND BIGHTS FROM POLITICIANS,COS ONE THING WE HAVE AS VETERANS,WHO HAVE WALKED THE WALK ,TALK THE TALK,IS CONTEMPT,AND A SENSE OF BETRAYAL,FROM THE M.O.D. &GOVERNMENT,SO GET OUT THERE,AND DO SOMETHING,AND I'M SURE THOSE WHO HAVE THEIR PJM,WILL WEAR IT AND SHOW THE SUITS,WE ARE HEAR,AND THIS TIME NEXT YEAR THERE WILL BE MORE. NORMAL SERVICE ON RATTLING PHONEYDICK,EMPEROR ARRTONE,FURSTLADEE GIMME GIMME,ILL BIFFO JAGUAR,ADML DULL GILETTE -WILKY,AND ANY OTHER SYCOPHANTIC TWERP,I CAN PIN A HANDLE ON ,WILL RESUME AFTER A PERIOD OF QUIET REFLECTION.GOODNIGHT ONE AND ALL.

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Post REMEMBRANCE SUNDAY. 
Well said Pete.

My grandfather served in the first world war in France with the KOSB and was injured by poison gas which caused pain and suffering the rest of his life. He died quite young at 34 years. His brother, my great-uncle was killed in France whilst fighting with the Highland Light Infantry.
My father served at Dunkirk and was invalided out on army pension thereafter. His brother, my uncle, was blown up at Monte Casino, Italy, and spent the rest of his life in some pain from his injuries.
My brother-in-law, aged 22 years, an only son was killed whilst fighting with the KOSB in Germany in 1945. His mother lived to be 96 years but she never could come to terms with his death. I promised her that after she died I would continue to lay flowers in his memory from the family at Lockerbie War Memorial on Remembrance Sunday just before the British Legion parade. I have done so ever since she passed away.

My two cousins and myself served in Malaya and I am now the only one surving as the other two have died.

Perhaps on reading this the unelected Civil Servants will now realise why they cannot bully me into keeping quiet about the PJM or why they cannot use their institutional bullying to make me comply with their unlawful orders.

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Well said McDangle, I too have a similar background all though not in such a great degree. My grandfather was a regular soldier in the Scottish Rifles who volunteered to serve again in 1915 promptly getting killed in the May at Ypres and since then all the males in my family have served in the Regular Army.

No tin pot civil servant tells me what I can or cannot do, I will not be bullied, and on that vein, I am getting ready to clash with the authorities when they decide to come into my home to assess it for the new council tax bands, I cannot accept that and nor will I. So Coney Edge and all his other cronies stand no chance with me or mine.

John

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On this photo

Background on left The Petition to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II
Background on right The Rebuttal to Her Majesty's Government
Centre Background The Fight4PJM With Compliments Card and Pin Badge
Centre Foreground The PJM Pin Badge in the Veterans (HMG) Presentation Box
On the left The PJM Medal (in box) as a posthumous award to my father Joseph Cooper
(including a miniature PJM)
On the right The PJM Medal which I honour all those that fought in Malaya/Malaysia and for which I will wear with pride as and when I feel fit to do so


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It seems that we all have forebears that served our country.

I had one grandfather who served on the NW Frotier of India in th e9th Queens Rayal Lancers. He then fought with his two brothers in the 1st WW. Later he joined the young RAF. My mother never told me that. He died just before WWII started.

My other grandfather had a brother killed in the Battle of the Modder River, during the Boer War.

Yes, I can remember a very much older cousin who came back from Dunkirk in what he stood up in. While walking down the street (him in army uniform), he would say me "Bags of swank John, bags of swank!)

He finished up as the Drum Major of the East Yorkshire Regiment Band.


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John Feltham wrote:
It seems that we all have forebears that served our country.


Indeed, John.

Flemings, Mortimers and Barkers rest in Belgium, France and Germany ... with one young man with no known grave (WW2 - RAF - shot down over France).

When this PJM business is over I shall finish my book on the 12th Bn Royal Fusiliers (City of London Regiment) service during WW1. I go to France and Belgium several times a year for research purposes, and I always make a point of visiting as many military cemeteries as possible, not only British but also those of other nations. I have visited over 150 over the last few years. That may sound strange to some - but not to those who themselves have been to those tranquil and serence places.

I shall go over in November. To Ypres and the Menin Gate and to Tyne Cot, Thiepval, Loos Memorial and other such places, but particularly to those small cemeteries. Too small to qualify for the expense of a Cross of Sacrifice or Memorial Stone. Cemeteries that are not visited from one year to the next.

I go not on the 11th but on the 20th November because I start my journey at Vadencourt on the Somme. There rests a man who was the last man to be killed in action in 12RF. He was a farm labourer from a village near Ipswich. My friend in Canada has helped me with my research and she traced E.S.'s wife and two children, and we discovered what happened to them after he had been killed nearly 90 years earlier.

In those days there was no support for these other victims of war. His wife had to leave her tied cottage on the farm and was unable to look after her children. In despair and shame (her judgement) she committed suicide by throwing herself into the river that flows near their village.

The young children were separated and lost all touch with each other and their history. Until 2003, that is. We, primarily Shirley in Canada, found one son, now 92, and then traced relatives who had not seen each other since 1919. Now they are back in touch - and the son has a photograph. It is of his father - the first likeness he had ever seen. So one WW1 statistic became a name and then a father again.

On Remembrance Day I shall remember my family, of course, and my friends from Aden, Malaya-Borneo and Cyprus. But I shall also remember those like “ES” and other casualties like his wife and his wonderful son Albert who lives in Ipswich and whom I now have the privilege of knowing and talking to from time to time.

And why am I writing all this? Because we are fighting for the right to wear the PJM not only for ourselves but, more importantly, for others ... for those who did not return, and those who were otherwise a ‘casualty’ of those 9 years when the PJM was honourably earned.

Barry

Vadencourt British Military Cemetery:




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BarryF wrote:
............. I have visited over 150 over the last few years. That may sound strange to some - but not to those who themselves have been to those tranquil and serence places..............

Barry


I have done the same Barry, The Normandy Coast, The North African Cemeteries between Bardia and Derna, our own in this country and this one for The French Resistance Fighters at Thones in The Savoy Alps and some on the Belgian Border, the USA one at Omaha Beach says it all for me especially that single toll of the bell at 1100hrs at The Spirit of Youth Statue. Bizarre to some but a poignant reminder of freedom to me




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WELL I'LL BE, I KEPT THIS INTEREST OF MINE TO MYSELF,FOR YEARS AND YEARS,I THOUGHT IT AN ODD PASTIME,IVE BEEN GOING TO THE BATTLEFIELDS OF EUROPE SINCE 1982,YPRES TO SOMME,NORMANDY TO VERDUN,ONLY WITH A TENT MIND,SOME TIME JUST LAYING UP IN FIELDS,OLD HABITS,AND AM PLEASED TO FIND SOME,WHO SHARE THIS PASSION,TO READ,TO INTERPRET CONTOURS ON MAPS,AND STAND THERE,ITS SOMETHING VERY HARD TO EXPLAIN,LIKE PREVIOUS CONTRIBUTORS,TWO GRANDADS,ONE BOER WAR,ONE BADLY WOUNDED MESSINE RIDGE JUNE 1917,HE LIVED TO 96 WITH A SHRAPNEL BALL ,THAT PULSED WITH EVERY BEAT OF HIS HEART,HIS BROTHER ISAAC SKELHORN IS ON PANEL 38 MENIN GRAVE,KILLED NEAR GHELUVELD 11/11/14.MUM'S BROTHER K.I.A DJEBEL BETTOIR,TUNISA APL 1943 LANCS FUSILIERS, MY DAD A BURMA STAR MAN ,KOREA TOO.I HOPE NO ONE MINDS,BUT BARRY ALL THOSE PLACES YOU HAVE MENTIONED,I SOUNDED MY BUGLE A TOP THE BLOCKHOUSE,AT TYNE COT,NEXT TO THE REMEMBRANCE STONE ,UNDER THE THIEPVAL ARCH,AND SOUDED' TAPS' IN THE CHAPEL IN THE AMERICAN CEMETERY AT COLVILE -SUR - MER, NORMANDY,BETTER KNOWN TO US AS OMAHA BEACH.MAYBE THIS IS OUR COMMON THREAD,WE HAVE SERVED,OUR FAMILIES TOO,AND THEY ARE WORTHY OF REMEMBRANCE

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I shall be at Horse Guards on the morning of Sunday 12th for the march down Whitehall and I know that their will be a few of you guys there too. Let's make a point of meeting up for a group photo - useful if Tony Bliar's secret medal police haul us off to the Tower for daring to wear a trinket in public.
GerryL


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It is not so odd, every where I go I makea point of visiting War Cemeteries and signing the register.

John

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