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John Cooper
Joined: 11 Feb 2006
Posts: 2158
Location: Suffolk
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UK Veterans Day June 27th
How will you celebrate UK Veterans Day, what is your local town/village/council laying on for you? If you know of any celebrations please place them here for others to see as there is only 24 days left for THE BIG BANG
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4709478.stm
Will you be awarded your new VETERANS 'MEDAL' (mine is due for delivery this day, I wonder who will present this to me?) I have a PJM Miniature medal, I can wear that, I also have a PJM lapel badge, I can wear that too
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Sat Jun 03, 2006 6:57 am |
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GerryL
Joined: 11 Feb 2006
Posts: 423
Location: West Sussex
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UK Veteran's Day
John
I emailed my local council to ask what they were organising and got no response. I emailed the Veteran's Agency and asked them if they could tell me what was being organised in West Sussex and got no response. I checked on the Veteran's Agency web site and found that there is a diary of events which can be accessed. The only event that I can see in my county is a Veteran's Agency stand outside a Tesco in Shoreham. I think that the whole business is just another political charade - the sound bite goes down well with the voters but they have no commitment to actually see the words backed up by action.
_________________ Gerald Law (ex RAF Borneo Veteran)
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Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:32 am |
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John Cooper
Joined: 11 Feb 2006
Posts: 2158
Location: Suffolk
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The support and advice available to veterans from official and voluntary sources, including ex-Service organisations.
Finally, Veterans Day will be an opportunity to celebrate with those who have given service and the service being given by those currently serving.
.....from the RBL website this really makes a mockery of how SOME Veterans are looked after.
Why are THEY not supporting us in the 'Official' right to wear a foreign medal which has nothing to do with them, bloody interferring busy bodies that somehow have to justify their own salaries, pensions and gongs, IT MAKES MY BL D curdle
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Sat Jun 03, 2006 7:16 pm |
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mcdangle
Joined: 12 Feb 2006
Posts: 1027
Location: Scotland
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Veterans Day.
Following a telephone call to our local Labour Representative (did I say representative, I must be mad) he decided on some spin and lies to justify his position and possible big salary and expenses, with the following in our local paper.
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Thu Jun 08, 2006 7:05 pm |
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billbrown51
Joined: 20 Jun 2006
Posts: 1
Location: Shooters Hill,LONDON SE18
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I will attend the event either at IWM of the RE Museum at Chatham The latter does not appear on the Veterans Agency web site Only found out because I was there last week.
IWM has music by the Irish Guards and Chatham the CRE band [the DofM last season before he retires from the Regular Army to move to the HAC.
_________________ Roger G
"Septem in juncta uno-the motto of honour"
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Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:47 am |
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bighenners
Joined: 01 Mar 2006
Posts: 9
Location: Australia
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Veterans Day June 27th
Greetings John from Australia. Sorry I cannot be with you all on this memorable occasion. Please be assured that our thoughts will be with you all. Walk tall, walk proud, and most of all , you fair dinkum veterans have a pint for all of us that were there, and the memories that we share. Henry Higgins Royal Navy
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Wed Jun 21, 2006 9:01 am |
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Phil Cogan
Joined: 22 Jun 2006
Posts: 3
Location: Gateshead, Tyne & Wear
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Hi John. God only knows who will present the Veterans Medal in my area as the Local council, like others, has nothing planned. Can you tell me what Gordon Brown's Veterans Medal looks like? If it is a medal at all!! Will we be allowed to wear it? Will it be classed as a commeorative medal? I'd be very interested to know where your Veterans Medal is coming from and how you were informed you would be a recipient. With regard to the PJM I'm not holding my breath about when we will receive this honour from the Malaysian people. Meanwhile I would be proud to at least waer the lapel badge which you have shown. I would be grateful if you let me have details of where you obtained it etc. My e-mail address is (philcogan@blueyonder.co.uk). Regards, Phil.
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Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:05 pm |
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John Cooper
Joined: 11 Feb 2006
Posts: 2158
Location: Suffolk
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Phil Cogan wrote:Hi John. God only knows who will present the Veterans Medal in my area as the Local council, like others, has nothing planned. Can you tell me what Gordon Brown's Veterans Medal looks like? If it is a medal at all!! Will we be allowed to wear it? Will it be classed as a commeorative medal? I'd be very interested to know where your Veterans Medal is coming from and how you were informed you would be a recipient. With regard to the PJM I'm not holding my breath about when we will receive this honour from the Malaysian people. Meanwhile I would be proud to at least waer the lapel badge which you have shown. I would be grateful if you let me have details of where you obtained it etc. My e-mail address is (philcogan@blueyonder.co.uk). Regards, Phil.
Hi Phil
Welcome to the forum, stay tuned re the PJM badge, it might be a little while before I get any more, they are as rare as hens teeth, if you send either Barry Fleming or myself a Private Message by clicking on our profiles we might be able to help, just leave your name and address and we will do the rest. Should be with you though before the PJM
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Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:16 pm |
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Paul Alders
Joined: 04 Mar 2006
Posts: 931
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Veterans Day
To: 'Coney, Richard Mr'; 'BrowneD@parliament.uk'; 'browng@parliament.uk'; 'beckettm@parliament.uk'; 'strawj@parliament.uk'; 'blaira@parliament.uk'; 'blairt@parliament.uk'; 'prescottj@parliament.uk'; 'Johnsona@parliament.uk'
Subject: Veterans day
Gentleman,
Veterans Day tomorrow, I look forward to see which Minister appreciates us Veterans the most and forgets all about us on Wednesday.
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Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:13 am |
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BarryF
Joined: 11 Feb 2006
Posts: 2721
Location: Berkshire, United Kingdom
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Re: Veterans Day
Paul Alders wrote:Veterans Day tomorrow, I look forward to see which Minister appreciates us Veterans the most and forgets all about us on Wednesday.
Andy has just sent this cutting from the Scottish Daily Express (their copyright, dated 25th June 2006):
It seems that this is a closed shop for the Government ... and the day is being boycotted by veterans.
_________________ BarryF, who fought for the Right to Wear the Pingat Jasa Malaysia
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Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:57 am |
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mcdangle
Joined: 12 Feb 2006
Posts: 1027
Location: Scotland
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Veterans Day
How's this for treatment of Veterans for Veterans Day.
I phoned the office of a Labour MP - Mr. Russell Brown, Dumfriesshire, and was told he had events planned but only for those who applied to him for their Lapel Badge and as I was not one of his constituents (I live 15 miles from Dumfries and joined the KOSB whilst living there) I could not get one from Russell Brown MP and I would have to apply to the Veterans Agency for my lapel badge. This in fact means that I was prevented from attending the event held in Dumfries on Sunday, 24th. June, 2006, which was attended by Des Browne, Defence Secretary, or any other event (drinkies on the taxpayer) organised by Brown.
You do not live in their constituency so you are not worthy of being involved in their Veterans Day celebrations. Some way to treat those who served their country. I wonder if Brown - Browne - Brown ever served their country on active service. I doubt it. I remember the Three Stooges so perhaps they should be renamed The Three Browns.
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Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:07 pm |
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'Jock' Fenton
Joined: 12 Feb 2006
Posts: 1222
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Re cutting from the 'Daily Depress'
Just submitted the following by email as a 'Letter to the Editor'....fingers crossed!
Dear Sir,
The excellent 25th June article by Julia Hartley-Brewer & Kirsty Buchanan regarding the apparent government 'hijacking' of Veterans Day 'celebrations' touches a very raw nerve.
These are the mean-spirited actions of the same government, whose HD committee, which advised the Queen on the decision to refuse 'Formal permission to wear' of the Pingat Jasa Malaysia, effectively 'hijacked' the generous intentions of a grateful and courteous Malaysian people.
Such conduct is nothing short of disgraceful.
The Foreign Office assertion that, "Medals cannot be requested if they are for service more than five years ago, or if a British award for the service has already been received. The PJM contravenes both rules." This is a blatant distortion of those very rules, which (purposely?) serves to confuse 'British' medals with 'Foreign' medals.
And when the Foreign Office opines: "These rules are not policed so if they would like to wear them without the proper authority they can."...it is being patently ridiculous!....the rules are not policed because they CANNOT be policed, since the Foreign Office knows full well that it can exercise no such authority over the actions of civilian recipients of a Foreign award.
Any individual who wishes to join the world wide movement to have this ridiculous ruling, which simultaneously insults Veterans, their fallen comrades and the Agong (King) and peoples of Malaysia, rescinded, should access the web site at: http://www.fight4thepjm.org/index.htm
Sincerely,
John 'Jock' Fenton.
(ex-Royal Corps of Signals & 17th Gurkha Division)
_________________ ...................'Jock'
Paroi...Rasah...Batu Signals Troop.
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Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:35 pm |
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Paul Alders
Joined: 04 Mar 2006
Posts: 931
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All Coventry has is a service in the church, invites only, I just might gate crash it?
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Mon Jun 26, 2006 2:29 pm |
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GerryL
Joined: 11 Feb 2006
Posts: 423
Location: West Sussex
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Veterans Day
With no events to attend, and wanting to wear the PJM, I went into the office in full regalia. This picture was taken when I got home and shows the RAF tie, NMBVA blazer badge, PJM lapel badge and the piece de resistance of the GSM and PJM in tandem. Unfortunately the HD Committee secret medal police were not around so it was something of a hollow gesture but did I feel good doing it.
_________________ Gerald Law (ex RAF Borneo Veteran)
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Tue Jun 27, 2006 6:08 pm |
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ro5=6372
Joined: 11 Mar 2006
Posts: 1763
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TO GERRY L
NICE ONE MATE NICE TO SEE A PREVIEW, OF WHAT WE'LL ALL LOOK LIKE, I DO MEAN THE MEDALS, NOT THE FUNGUS ROUND YOUR CHIN!
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Tue Jun 27, 2006 6:19 pm |
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