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Terence Winsor
Joined: 14 Feb 2006
Posts: 22
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Cash For Hounours
Tony Blair was interviewed by Police about the "Cash for Honour's" today. But the report on Diana's death also came out. Another emample of trying to bury bad news!!!
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Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:03 pm |
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BarryF
Joined: 11 Feb 2006
Posts: 2721
Location: Berkshire, United Kingdom
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Re: Cash For Hounours
Terence Winsor wrote:Tony Blair was interviewed by Police about the "Cash for Honour's" today. But the report on Diana's death also came out. Another emample of trying to bury bad news!!!
Well, Terry ... I'll go to the foot of our stairs!
Predictable or what!
What is sad (for them) is that they cannot even begin to comprehend the contempt with which so many people now see them and their depressingly easily anticipated gambits.
_________________ BarryF, who fought for the Right to Wear the Pingat Jasa Malaysia
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Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:46 pm |
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jireland
Joined: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 566
Location: Wiltshire
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The sad thing is that they (the Labour Party) cannot see the irony of it.
As Barry will tell you, it is a trick that is as old as the hills to interview the chief suspect as a witness because you can ask some very pertinent questions which can then be proved or disproved at leisure but as you did not arrest or caution the person, you can go back again and again until you have enough evidence to arrest.
Roll on the day.
John
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Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:33 am |
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John Feltham
Joined: 12 Feb 2006
Posts: 764
Location: Townsville, North Queensland
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jireland wrote:The sad thing is that they (the Labour Party) cannot see the irony of it.
The UK is not alone, the State and Federal Parliaments in Australia, suffer from the same demoralising demise of parliamentary standards.
_________________ Merdeka, Merdeka, Merdeka,
from the HD Committee and its decision.
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Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:37 am |
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Kentsboro
Joined: 11 Oct 2006
Posts: 431
Location: Hampshire
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Cash For Hounours
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Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:48 am |
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jireland
Joined: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 566
Location: Wiltshire
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Priceless
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Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:40 pm |
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Arthur R-S
Joined: 05 Aug 2006
Posts: 860
Location: Brandon, Suffolk
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Honours for cash
Yes John,
Priceless, unlike the cost of a peerage ...snigger...snigger
Yours Aye
Arthur
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Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:27 pm |
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IvorJ
Joined: 15 Feb 2006
Posts: 89
Location: Sunshine Coast, Queensland, Australia
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I have just finished reading a post on the HMS Ganges website forum about the PM's question time in parliament last week. Sitting behind Tony Blair was Margaret Beckett and John Prescott who were chattering to each other. Tony Blair announced another death of a British soldier while at the same time Beckett and Prescott were having a good laugh together.
I am so incensed that these two vermin are in such privileged positions in the government. How can we do business with people like this and expect to get a fair hearing. Loyalty, compassion, fairness and pride mean little or nothing to such people. They are only interested in shoving their snouts further and further into the public trough. I regret sending a polite letter to Beckett and Blair (never received a reply) expecting it would be respectfully acknowledged. I now realise that these are not respectful people. If they can be put up for public execution in the future I will gladly hop on the first plane out of Oz to witness it. I think its time we went for the throat and got political and let the Great be put back into Britain.
_________________ All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing
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Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:42 am |
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John Feltham
Joined: 12 Feb 2006
Posts: 764
Location: Townsville, North Queensland
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Cash for Honours and Teflon Tony
As I have said elsewhere on this Forum today....Why am I not surprised?
Number 10, has police hackers gaining information from computers.
Read all about it at.....
http://tinyurl.com/yrskhj
_________________ Merdeka, Merdeka, Merdeka,
from the HD Committee and its decision.
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Sun Jan 21, 2007 7:13 am |
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Arthur R-S
Joined: 05 Aug 2006
Posts: 860
Location: Brandon, Suffolk
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It seems that the wrong person got buried.
Yours Aye
Arthur
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Sun Jan 21, 2007 10:18 am |
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Bill Blyth
Joined: 18 Oct 2006
Posts: 104
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It is getting better all the time.
Bill Blyth.
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Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:15 pm |
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John Feltham
Joined: 12 Feb 2006
Posts: 764
Location: Townsville, North Queensland
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More on the missing Emails.
http://tinyurl.com/24wl7e
and this one too.
http://tinyurl.com/yvfewj
_________________ Merdeka, Merdeka, Merdeka,
from the HD Committee and its decision.
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Sat Jan 27, 2007 2:13 pm |
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John Feltham
Joined: 12 Feb 2006
Posts: 764
Location: Townsville, North Queensland
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Google Search
Do a Google search for
cash for honours
Count how many hits there are.
_________________ Merdeka, Merdeka, Merdeka,
from the HD Committee and its decision.
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Wed Jan 31, 2007 4:40 am |
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John Feltham
Joined: 12 Feb 2006
Posts: 764
Location: Townsville, North Queensland
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CAsh for Honours? Its not new.
Lloyd George had a honours price list in the early 1920’s and there are a few ‘names‘ who sit in the House of Lords today that are there because their Grandfather’s bought a Title in the early 1920’s. I am allowed to mention their names?
Arthur Maundy Gregory, the son of a clergyman, was born in Southampton on 1st July, 1877. He went to Oxford University but left before obtaining a degree. He became a teacher but later found employment in the theatre as an actor-manager.
In 1909 Gregory was recruited as a spy by Vernon Kell, head of MI5. Gregory's main task was to compile dossiers of possible foreign spies living in London. Later, Gregory was recruited by Sidney Riley, the top agent the recently formed MI6.
Gregory's work as a spy provided him with information on some of Britain's leading politicians. He was especially interested in their sexual activities and it was later claimed that he used this information to blackmail them for money.
Gregory now moved in circles where he made friends with the rich and famous. This included the Duke of York, who later became King George V. Another friend was David Lloyd George, the Chancellor of the Exchequer in the Liberal Government formed after the 1910 General Election.
In 1918 Sir Basil Thomson, Head of the Special Branch, asked Gregory to spy on Victor Grayson, the former MP for Colne Valley. Grayson held left-wing views and was suspecting of working as an agent for the new communist government in Russia. It was also feared he might be working for the Irish Republican Army.
Victor Grayson discovered that Gregory was spying on him and decided to do some research into the spy's background. With the help of some important friends, Grayson found out that the Prime Minister, David Lloyd George was using Gregory to sell political honours. At a public meeting in Liverpool Grayson accused Lloyd George, of corruption. He claimed that Lloyd George was selling political honours for between £10,000 and £40,000. Grayson declared: "This sale of honours is a national scandal. It can be traced right down to 10 Downing Street, and to a monocled dandy with offices in Whitehall. I know this man, and one day I will name him."
Grayson's comments about the "monocled dandy with offices in Whitehall" let Gregory know that he was in danger of being exposed. At the beginning of September 1920, Victor Grayson was beaten up in the Strand. This was probably an attempt to frighten Grayson but he continued to make speeches about the selling of honours and threatening to name the man behind this corrupt system.
On the 28th September Victor Grayson was drinking with friends when he received a telephone message. Grayson told his friends that the had to go to Queen's Hotel in Leicester Square and would be back shortly. Later that night, George Flemwell was painting a picture of the Thames, when he saw Grayson entering a house on the river bank. Flemwell knew Grayson as he had painted his portrait before the war. Flemwell did not realize the significance of this as the time because Grayson was not reported missing until several months later. An investigation carried out in the 1960s revealled that the house that Grayson entered was owned by Arthur Maundy Gregory.
Grayson was never seen alive again. It is believed he was murdered but his body was never found. After Grayson's death Gregory continued to sell honours Gregory was involved in arranging for the forged Zinoviev Letter to be published in British newspapers. An event that helped to defeat the Labour Party in the 1924 General Election.
In 1932 Gregory attempted to sell a knighthood to Lieutenant Commander Edward Leake. He pretended he was interested and then reported the matter of Scotland Yard. Gregory was arrested but he turned it to his advantage as he was now able to blackmail famous people into paying him money in return for not naming them in court. Gregory pleased guilty and therefore did not give evidence of his activities in court. Arthur Maundy Gregory was sentenced to two months' imprisonment and a fine of £50.
On leaving prison Gregory was persuaded to live in Paris where he was paid a pension of £2,000 a year by the Conservative Party. Arthur Maundy Gregory died at the Val de Grace Hospital in Paris on 28th September 1941.
_________________ Merdeka, Merdeka, Merdeka,
from the HD Committee and its decision.
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Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:22 am |
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Paul Alders
Joined: 04 Mar 2006
Posts: 931
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Cash for Honours
Peerage = £500,000.
Knighthood = £250,000.
MBE/OBE = a few quid in the kitty.
PJM. It's honour is not for sale, it's priceless.
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